Extreme Argumentative

Is it so surprising that many pro-lifers distance themselves from anti-abortion folks? The Vox Nova commentary on numerous threads the past day or two shows how widespread the emotional immaturity is. Some of the most passionate anti-abortion folks are harming the cause they claim to hold as of the utmost importance. And the sad thing is, I can’t really find any pro-choice commentators on the threads. (Though I’m open to correction on that point; I can’t say wading through several dozen exercises in angry semantics is an appealing research project.) Can you imagine what would hit the fan if some enterprising pro-choice group decided to invade with some decent arguments? Or their own brand of “charity?”

It’s almost as if the Republican-doubters have said, “I’m voting for Obama, I’m still going to receive Communion, and your bishop can’t stop me, nyah, nyah, nyah.”

November can’t come soon enough for the Catholic blogosphere’s sense of serenity. If we ever had one, that is.

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Todd and his family live in Ames, Iowa. He serves a Catholic parish of both Iowa State students and town residents.
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9 Responses to Extreme Argumentative

  1. It really is a shame that some people only view life-issues within the hermeneutics of party politics, and that allows them to ignore failures of one’s chosen party in life issues. And to think if anyone points out problems with a candidate or party on life, it means you must be “the other party.”

    Until people can move the pro-life discussion beyond the parties, there will be no movement for the Gospel of Life, I am afraid. Good for party politics. Bad for life. :(

  2. John Heavrin says:

    “Can you imagine what would hit the fan if some enterprising pro-choice group decided to invade with some decent arguments?”

    Is there a “decent” moral argument for allowing the unborn to be legally killed, which is what “pro-choice” means? I can’t think of one.

  3. Todd says:

    Thanks for stopping by to show off your lack of reading comprehension, John.

    I said “decent” argument, not “decent moral” argument. There is no “decent moral” argument in favor of abortion rights. You want to disagree with me on that?

  4. M.Z. Forrest says:

    We had some feminists who attempted to once. They were too stuck on Rothbard to make it interesting.

    I believe we had at least one commentator actually argue one could be pro-choice.

  5. Liam says:

    If one’s quarrelsomeness is not adding any light to a discussion (either by simply echoing the views of others or by deepening the peevishness of the audience without persuading them), it’s often best to shut up. That’s something that a lot of people seem to miss (including myself at times).

  6. Liam says:

    That’s why a good Lenten abstinence can be to abstain from combox warfare.

  7. John Heavrin says:

    You’re more than welcome, Todd. I didn’t mean to be a showoff, though.

    I’ll amend my question:

    Is there a “decent” argument that would be at all relevant to the readers of Vox Nova for allowing the unborn to be legally killed, which is what “pro-choice” means? I can’t think of one.

  8. John Heavrin says:

    By the way, to address your last question, I completely agree with you that there is no decent moral argument in favor of “abortion rights,” or, to use the phrase I prefer, “legal abortion.”

  9. crystal says:

    I posted something about this a couple of days ago. Thomas Reese SJ commented on abortion and politics and the kind of arguments pro-lifers need to make if they want to be heard by those not religious, at On Faith. There are pro-choice arguments that are at least thought out even if necessarily correct – Abortion isn’t a religious issue, the LA Times article by Gary Willis.

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