Don’t Look Now: Another Pro-Life Protest

So … how many bishops will be condemning Legatus for giving a pro-life award to the most pro-torture president in recent memory? Do you suppose some number of pro-lifers will be arrested for protesting? Will the USCCB debate behind closed doors on Catholic identity in the marketplace? Cardinal George (no Mary Ann Glendon, he) sure is piling up frequent-flier miles, isn’t he? Rome last week for Vox Clara, and today California.

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Todd and his family live in Ames, Iowa. He serves a Catholic parish of both Iowa State students and town residents.
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11 Responses to Don’t Look Now: Another Pro-Life Protest

  1. Gavin says:

    IIRC, president HW Bush is probably the most aggressively pro-torture president of late. And care to share the current president’s pro-life merit in that field (talk doesn’t count)?

    Still your underlying sentiment is absolutely correct: torture is ALSO a pressing life issue.

  2. Bob B. says:

    I would have no problem with President Bush being given a anti-abortion award – he clearly was that. But to call him pro-life is to say the only life issue is abortion. Not only is there the torture – how many death sentences were carried out while he was Governor of Texas? To what extent did he stand in the way of policies that could have helped children already born? How many service members were killed in a selective war he started with inadequate planning and inadequate support to the troops?

  3. Thom says:

    The whole thing makes me ill.

  4. GNW_Paul says:

    I’ll agree we can reasonably question the appropriateness of giving a pro-life award to former President Bush. I think the bigger reason for objecting is actually capital punishment, rather than torture, although I also object to the Bush administration’s justification for and use of torture.

    I disagree with your attempt to paint the USCCB, Cardinal Archbishop George or Mary Ann Glendon as hypocrites if they don’t make a public outcry and spectacle out of this award.

    First, who’s even ever heard of Legatus and this award? I hadn’t. But everyone knows Notre Dame and the commencement speech at Notre Dame is national news item every year. There is no comparison in the magnitude of these two events!

    Second, although I oppose the Bush administration on both capital punishment and torture neither of these issues is of the same magnitude as abortion. As wrong as the Bush admin and supporters are about waterboarding they did not advocate broadly speaking, torture. Also, a rather small number of terrorists were subjected to torture under the Bush admin.

    Third, abortion has been a plague on this country and is protected as a right by the SCOTUS for 37 years! The legal process on torture is still working it’s way through the courts and we can have hope our justice system will work honorably. Also, George Bush is no longer President and presumably the USA is no longer engaging in torture. For all of these reasons we don’t have multiple, large national organizations (Catholic or otherwise) protesting torture.

    So I think you are taking a non-news worthy award and insignificant event and using it to try to impinge the morality of prominent Catholics including a Cardinal Archbishop.

    What? Do you expect Cardinal George hold a press conference for every 3rd string Catholic organization that honors President Bush? Have any of the people you directly maligned made any defense of the Bush administration regarding torture? or Capital punishment? NO.

    • Harry says:

      Paul, just because you haven’t heard of Legatus doesn’t mean it isn’t either widely known or highly influential.

      Think for a moment. They can command the presence of the Cardinal Archbishop of Chicago and the Archbishop of New York, as well as a former president and a former speaker of the house.

      What I find kinda sad is to have an association of Catholic business executives so closely aligned with neo-con (not Republican) politics.

      Once upon a time, the church identified strongly with men and women who worked with their hands, and spend untold billions educating their sons and daughters to become business executives who would also identify strongly with men and women who work with their hands.

      The scandal is that there may be Catholic CEOs and executives, but doggone if you can tell them apart from any other CEO and executive.

  5. “So I think you are taking a non-news worthy award and insignificant event and using it to try to impinge the morality of prominent Catholics including a Cardinal Archbishop.”

    Which is why it is being mentioned on Zenit? And this: “Another political leader scheduled to address the expected 450 summit participants is Newt Gingrich, former speaker of the house, who will speak about his conversion to Catholicism and will be accompanied by his wife, Callista.”

    It’s newsworthy.

    • GNW_Paul says:

      Barely. Zenit isn’t what anyone would call a major news outlet. It’s just a blurb anywhere else.

      Hardly anyone has ever heard of Legatus, this award, or that Bush is being honored. Outside of a handful of political, pro-life, and Catholic news geeks this is a non-event.

  6. Thom says:

    It doesn’t really matter how “newsworthy” it is. It’s still a Catholic organization honoring a pro-death politician with an award.

  7. John says:

    “As wrong as the Bush admin and supporters are about waterboarding they did not advocate broadly speaking, torture. Also, a rather small number of terrorists were subjected to torture under the Bush admin.”

    Allowing hundreds of inmates to be executed while governor of Texas is not broadly speaking ending human life.

    Hiding behind the title “The War on Terrorism” while thousands of young Americans were killed and over a 100,000 Iraqis have died is not broadly speaking death.

    Flying at a lower altitude over New Orleans after Katrina watching people hang on to their last shreds of life is not broadly speaking unsupportive of human dignity and precious life.

    We make choices in life. We stand on one side or the other. Some of us have the courage to stand strong. Others stand dependent on the direction of the wind. The award given by Legatus was misguided at best and given to an individual who checked the wind every morning during his presidency to determine which side of the line he would stand on.

    My sister is pregnant. Broadly speaking, she is only a little bit pregnant.

  8. Bill Kurtz says:

    Legatus isn’t the first pro-life group to step in it this way. One of the first recipients of National Right to Life’s highest award was that crusader for racial equality, Sen. Jesse Helms.

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