Circle The Wagons, Men

An episcopal hymn full of female images has the men leaping for the bunkers in the battle of the sexes again. Bill suggests it’s driving men from religion, but have we anything other than anecdotal evidence suggesting this is true? I can only imagine what the numbers might look like if men stopped looking for single women at worship.

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Todd lives in Minnesota, serving a Catholic parish as a lay minister.
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9 Responses to Circle The Wagons, Men

  1. Talmida says:

    Bill suggests it’s driving men from religion?

    Oh, cry me a river, Bill.

    For us MEN and for our salvation.
    Faith of our FATHERS.
    SONS of God.

    How many women have left over those?

    Tell me, what kind of man leaves religion because he doesn’t like the lyrics? Are you sure you really WANT guys like that in your pews?

    ;)

  2. FrMatthew says:

    The idea that Western Christianity is driving men from religion is suspect. Yes, more women go to church than men. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that men don’t live as long?? At daily Mass, the place is packed with widows. I’m sure it was the same in Jesus’ day. (Remember Anna?)St. Cyril of Jerusalem noted that some men in his congregation were being baptized just for the women who attended there. (If I can paraphrase Cyril’s great line: “I won’t deny the Fisherman his hook!”)The phenomenon is complex, but “machotheology” is not the answer.

  3. Jimmy Mac says:

    Enough of this wimpy drivel! If we can’t have hymns acclaiming and prasing a dos-cojoned Jesus, then, by God, off with their heads.

  4. Tony says:

    Tell me, what kind of man leaves religion because he doesn’t like the lyrics? Are you sure you really WANT guys like that in your pews?

    Probably not if you are at St. Kumbaya of the felt banners. You want women. Strong women! Feminist women. Besides, at St. Kumbaya’s they don’t need no steenkin’ men. They have a hard enough time keeping one priest in line, and they could have gotten rid of him if they didn’t need him to consecrate the hosts all the women distribute.

  5. Mike says:

    Tony, real women are feminist; so are real men.

  6. Anne says:

    “You want women! Strong women! Feminist women!”

    Oh! You mean women like like Mary who fit this description! Then YES! We need more people with courage like her!

  7. Tony says:

    Oh! You mean women like like Mary who fit this description! Then YES! We need more people with courage like her!

    Unfortunately the vast majority of the feminist women couldn’y get the “thy will be done” part right. They were more into “my will be done”.

    Not much of an emulation of the Blessed Mother, in my opinion.

    I think against my better judgment I’m going to blog on this. Stay tuned.

  8. Anne says:

    They were into “my will be done”

    um…not the Christian Catholic women I know who have a strong, confident faith…like Mary.

  9. talmida says:

    You’re against feminism?

    1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
    2 : organized activity on behalf of women’s rights and interests (Merriam Webster)

    Which part are you against? Political, economic or social equality?

    And is it just the “vast majority” of feminist women who reject God’s call? or feminist men too??

    Because when I read Ratzinger’s “Letter on the Collaboration of Men and Women”, it sounds like he’s in favour of political, economic, and social equality.

    And wouldn’t that make him a feminist?

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