The Republican Trojan Horse

Hey, let’s do another Ralph Nader post. The last one was fun, no?

Tuesday this week, Michael Sean Winters at the new America blog reacted to the new Nader candidacy with a suggestion for censorship:

I invite all responsible journalists to join in pledging to refuse to mention his name from now through election day. It is the least we can do for our country.

My new friend Karen suggested the Katherine Harris method, sans chads, early in the last thread:

If you can’t tell the difference between Al Gore and George Bush, perhaps your franchise to vote should be taken away.

I’m sure that as good progressives Michael and Karen didn’t really mean to talk like conservative operatives. Silencing dissenters and disenfranchising voters is the Republican modus operandi, after all.

I think some liberals have had their brains infected by bad behavior. Opposing Ralph Nader has gotten so bilious they’re starting to lose their grip on progressive principles. Indeed, rather than get outraged by strange election happenings when Republicans are at the oj cooler, they get mad about somebody doing something that is a civil right. Seems to me outrage is better served by injustice. You know, strange goings-on in minority voting districts: stuff like that.

Ralph Nader is what he is, and maybe he can still pull a half-mil votes in a national campaign. Seems to me more Democrats voted for Bush than that.

But living in the past can be convenient. It works for conservatives all the time. It’s infected the thinking of some otherwise good liberals. Wake up, friends. Get a hug. Then get over it.

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11 Responses to The Republican Trojan Horse

  1. Karen says:

    Oh boy, here we go again.

    Nader’s run in 2000 had nothing to do with the principles of the Green Party. It was all about reaching the 5 percent threshhold to be eligible for federal funding.

    Please think. With the possible exception of Theodore Roosevelt, Al Gore was the “greenest” candidate to ever run for the presidency. If the Green Party wanted a green president, they would have supported Al Gore.

    Instead, they run a guy who made his name in consumer advocacy, not in evironmental protection. In fact, to this day, Ralph Nader is not even a member of the Green Party.

    Emboldened by the example of H. Ross Perot, the Greens looked for a candidate with national name recognition who could get them to 5 percent.

    In short, it was all about money. And both Greens and Nader have paid a heavy price for their 2000 blunder.

    So save your lectures about “progressive principles” for the Green Party.

  2. Karen says:

    “Ralph Nader is what he is, and maybe he can still pull a half-mil votes in a national campaign.”

    Agreed. Nader is so diminished that will have no effect on the 2008 race.

    Now explain to me why Tim Russert gave him a free national stage to announce his candidacy.

  3. Karen says:

    Oh, by the way, I congratulate you on the title to this thread.

    “Republican Trojan Horse” sums up Ralph Nader quite nicely. I am glad you are seeing the light.

  4. JPaul says:

    I would bet the house that Karen & Todd desire the same things for this nation.


  5. Todd says:

    I chose the title on purpose. Neither Nader nor his followers are above being skewered. Of what use is a sense of humor if it’s only one-dimensional?

    You’re welcome to try to hijack this thread if you wish. Of course the Greens and Nader were using each other to achieve particular ends. My point here is that anti-Nader liberals have gone a little irrational, especially since they seem to devote so little bile to Bush Democrats.

    At least Greens voted their party. What can you say for Democrats who abandoned Gore?

  6. Todd says:

    I think you’ll be sleeping under the same roof after the bet is settled.

  7. Karen says:

    Oh, so now I am “hijacking” threads?

    You son of a b****!

    Delete this if you wish, you are beyond education.

  8. Todd says:

    Karen, try to calm down. Unlike other bloggers, I have no problem with my commentariat going off on a tangent. It’s just like normal conversation.

    This thread started with commentary about anti-Naderites in 2008. If that topic is uncomfortable, you’re welcome, as I said, to try to steer the discussion elsewhere.

  9. JPaul says:

    does she know our mother?

    I still like you, but resorting to name calling? You could loose my respect.

  10. JPaul says:

    Now explain to me why Tim Russert gave him a free national stage to announce his candidacy.


  11. Jimmy Mac says:

    The fact that Nader chose Matt Gonzalez as his VP running mate shows that he has lost all touch with reality. Gonzalez is a defeated candidate for mayor of SF, a termed-out member of what is affectionately known as the SF Board of “Stupevisors”, and, even in an uber-liberal city such as SF, is considered a flakey loose cannon. (One of the things he wanted to do was give non-citizens the right to vote in all elections.) What was initially a groaning “not HIM again!” is now a fit of dismissive laughter.

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