Fake TLM Priest

Do you know your Latin Mass priest is authentic? A Filipino man was found to be a fraud.

He reportedly attracted parishioners with his celebration of the Mass, which was described as “reminiscent of all the reverence and strict compliance with the movements and rituals whenever traditional Latin Masses are celebrated.”

He was a good homilist, too, so the report says. I guess quality isn’t everything.

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Todd lives in Minnesota, serving a Catholic parish as a lay minister.
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8 Responses to Fake TLM Priest

  1. Andy says:

    Are you really using this man’s case of fraud as a chance to take a cheap shot at the TLM? Are you so lacking in good arguments?

  2. Kip says:

    Maybe it’s just a fun story. Consider the reference to “strict compliance” in the article excerpt. It’s hilarious. The guy was high on compliance but low on, well, compliance. He never bothered to be ordained, even by one of the episcopi vagantes. You’d think one them would give that guy Orders, if he asked in a nice voice.

    As for the communicants in this affair, maybe Christ had their back no matter what deception was underway.

  3. Mike says:

    Andy, he was a fake priest who celebrated the TLM. Nothing cheap about anything Todd said. Are you so lacking in reading comprehension?

  4. David D. says:

    Reading comprehension also involves drawing reasonable inferences.

    Yes, it was a cheap shot but a rather harmless one.

  5. Kip says:

    What follows is not to be taken as piling on Andy. It’s just that something in the syle of his comment calls to mind traditionalist communication. And, speaking from experience, I want to say something on the topic of traditionalist communication, for what it’s worth.

    (I defend the position that this move is on topic because stories about fake TLM priests are appropriated by Catholics as meaningful in part against the background of post-VII cultural politics, itself partially constituted by traditionalist communication and how people respond to it.)

    Traditionalist subculture functions as an echo chamber that transforms its participants. What echoes inside, to put it crudely, is the message that the Church and the world hate you, and they hate you because, at bottom, no matter how many qualifications are admitted to modify it, they are responding in their wickedness to your goodness (how by grace in humility you freely and earnestly reverence all that is true and good–is that not the “us” under attack by the “them”?). And this message changes you by changing your picture of the world and stance toward it–the very matrix of all your utterances, all your communicative actions.

    Now when those actions are directed outside the traditionalist bubble, they take on a defensive aspect. After all, outside the bubble, who are you dealing with? People who hate you.

    But when you communicate “as hated” with people, you get nowhere with them, for they see your defensiveness as a sign of larger problems, and they don’t want to have those problems. So they don’t convert, but remain “wicked”. Moreover, in communicating this way you deform yourself, since most of the time you are only as hated as you take yourself to be. And this takes a toll. In the next round, you communicate “as hated even more” with people, since they are rejecting you time and again. This becomes a vicious circle. Whether its unfolding leads to the destruction of marriages, children, careers, and the true believers themselves, however, depends on many factors I cannot lay out and analyze here and now (thank God!).

    Pray that Roman Catholic traditionalism falls apart. It hurts the Church because its participants are members of the Church.

  6. Todd says:

    Two things briefly. What Kip describes is true of any cult, regardless of ideology. What distinguishes a healthy intentionality in religion is inner humility. The early desert tradition had it, and the monastic movement continues in that vein. They avoided narcissism by many tools put into place by Anthony, Benedict, and other leading lights. And while they were uncompromising in their hatred of sin and vice, they recognized this did not preclude the possibility of sin sullying their own virtue, nor the necessity of the virtues of love of and hospitality for outsiders and inquirers.

    In my experience, it has been more common to see TLM communities in the US be served by non-diocesan priests. Non-pastors, certainly. Vetting visiting clergy is important, as there are frauds out there.

    It is less likely a non-priest would perpetrate fraud on a mainstream parish. Odds are this will happen in a fringe community, either progressive or traditional.

  7. Kip says:

    I apologize for adding this postscript, but additional action is required in order to be just toward traditionalists:

    The sad thing is that traditionalism only comes about because its participants take the claims of the Church seriously.

    The Church ought never to have claimed to possess certain forms of power at T1 if at T2 they would change it all up. That creates crises of faith and personal integration which call forth responses, not all of them healthy. And for doing that the Church needs a big big spanking.

    “You can’t make an omlette without breaking eggs,” and for people at the top taking the initiative in creating the history of the Roman Catholic Church, traditionalists and their families have been the eggs. Way to go. The rug you pulled out from under these people was the very stuff of what you authoritatively called being a good Catholic.

    How convenient. Use words to make people do stuff, and then when circumstances change, use new words. What remains constant is that people are to be managed by means of what you get them freely to take to be the truth, on your authority, purportedly given to you by Jesus as God in the gospels-read-as-newspapers-show to be found in apologetics texts.

    It’s hard to tremble before the weight of “the keys” if it doesn’t rest upon an action of Jesus but rather upon a theological opinion built up to make sense of and talk about a special feeling someone got during prayer or some other activity back in first century, no matter how awesome early Christian communities might have been. What am I supposed to do with that? Why should I have to go to Hell for eternity (read Unum Sanctum) if I can’t trust someone else’s claims about the significance of their special feelings? (And don’t respond ‘miracles testify to the truth of the claims so you’re being obstinate in your wickedness; come out of darkness into the light, sinner’ because Christian Scientists too work miracles.) Without this faith I cannot please God, just ask St. Paul. Why would Heaven be full of what can’t please God? You gotta love the “good news” that many of us do not only die–we already knew that–but that death is the passage into eternal torment.

    Eternal torment. Medidate upon that “mystery”. Meditate upon the pains of the damned for 15 minutes a day for the rest of the week. No big deal, not for the whole course of the Year of the Damned or something like that, but just the rest of this week. After all, it’s part of the faith once handed on. Have integrity, embrace the “fullness of Truth” EWTN keeps talking about. Celebrate Hell for those who, according to the current, milder version of the triumphalist narrative, have “trust issues.”

  8. Kip says:

    catholicsensibility @ 1:18,

    Thanks for that elaboration, and please excuse me for venting on your blog. I will now take it easy, as I am angry, and though it’s not impossible for good to come of it, it’s also not likely, at least not today.

    I’m what’s wrong with the Internet, and I get that.

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