Long-time readers know I dislike censoring practices in media, including banning commenters on blogs or deleting posts. I will mention that one of Max’s he said/he said screeds went into the trash a little while ago. He knows why: don’t bring Bible quotes off-topic into a subject other people may find otherwise edifying. He has his own blog for that.
Dick brought a more personal message that I saved here before deleting from the thread, with some comments:
Todd: You must not believe that God wrote and inspired every jot and tittle of the word of God. you say it in your own words by saying it in you own meaning, changing the truth for a lie as you show you ignorance.
God certainly didn’t write it in English, even the new King James English. Max also falls into the trap of fundamentalism, which I see as a symptom not of Christian loyalty but more a product of the Enlightenment.
My sister married a Catholic who was an only child, a mommies boy. He never saw his Father and Mother hug or kiss or hug. My sister saw affection in our family; we were always hugging each other as a family. She needed that. Her husband didn’t. after two children he cut her off. NOTHING. My sister cried to my mother. Her mother told her to ask the priest on what to do? She did and guess what He told her to do. Go have yourself a fling on Saturday night.
So the lesson here is that some Catholics are gravely imperfect. They don’t represent Christianity, nor their tradition very well. Don’t marry them. Don’t listen to their advice.
Dick, however, comes to this blog and comments frequently in spells. He knows I am a Catholic. I have to ask the questions openly: why do you bother? What brought you here? Don’t you find lower-hanging fruit in the real world more enticing for your brand of persuasion?
If my brother in law would have been taught about all enjoyment is all right in the marriage Bed, the preist would not have told her it was all right to fornicate .
Thing is, none of us were there to listen to this counsel. Dick admits he heard it second- or third-hand. When we hear what amounts to gossip, we can concede that “have a fling” was what was heard. It might not have been what was said.
There is no restriction in the marriage bed for Born again couples, who have the nature of God and all things would be done out of AGAPE LOVE. I never said cutting or anything like that was all right.
Unfortunately, a lot of Christian men have taken this passage and used it to abrogate other passages that advise tenderness, respect, and putting oneself second to the beloved. Men who labelled themselves Christian have raped their wives, and done worse, and justified themselves. These men are no better than idolaters and self-worshippers, having left Christ and his grace far, far behind.
The Bible I have no problem with. It is the intemperate and ignorant interpretations of it that bother me.
Over to the commentariat; I’m out of this one.